foryouonly
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Kaya naman kasi sya naa-underestimate eh kung sinu-sino na lang ang nakakapasok sa OU. I’m sorry pero for some UP grads nag nag BA/BS talaga sa campus like me, UPOU is still separate/different from us. Yeah right, take home ang exam and expected na mas mahirap. Pero ang tanong, may magbabantay ba sa iyo sa pagsagot ng exam mo? May assurance ba na di ka magpapaturo sa friend/kakilala mong let’s say summa ng UP? And yes, according sa mga HR friends ko from different companies…hindi mataas ang tingin nila sa mga UPOU. Iba pa rin ang mga galing sa UP campus (any) mismo.
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freakninja
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From what I know, not all the exams are taken home, there are certain dates where you have to take an exam in person sa testing center. So you’d be a fool not to study on your own.
Sure, you can say that it is separate or has a different approach compared to the classroom UP experience, that’s a given. It’s distance education for crying out loud. But to insinuate that a UPOU education is subpar is IMHO, downright ignorance.
I studied in UPV and UPD, and it’s sad that THIS is what is being taught in UP – that there is a system-wide hierarchy – where the provincial campuses and OU happen to be at the bottom of that list.
Hindi mataas and tingin sa UPOU? Well I guess that’s OU’s challenge now: To prove them wrong.
I work for HR and the truth is, this has never been (and should never be) an issue (well, at least in my company), because at the end of the day, it’s not where you studied that matters, it’s how well you can apply what you’ve learned that does.
Sure, your fancy degree from your fancy university can land you a job, but in the real world, it will always be your attitude and your skill that will determine how far you can succeed.
kthxbai.
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Little Prince
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@foryouonly – so far sa experience ko, madalang ang homebased exam sa UPOU. In fact, almost never. Usually pinapupunta ang students sa UPOU Learning Centers para doon mag-exam ng closed book. And also, FYI, nag-ooffer din ang UPOU ng Bachelors degree courses. Hindi po vocational school ang UPOU like what you might think, and truth is, mas mahirap ang nature of learning sa UPOU kasi you don’t have the luxury of an actual instructor. Binibigyan lang ng 30-pager module and set of questions that you have to complete in 1 week. Kadalasan, sabay-sabay pa magbigay ng homework ang mga profs to the point na dapat sa isang araw makatapos ka ng isang homework kung 5 subjects ang kinuha mo sa isang sem. E pano pa kung nagtatrabaho ka? Isa pang FYI, former residential UP students, professionals, managers and business owners ang usual students ng UPOU so imagine kung paano nilang gagawin ang 30-pager reading, and paper-writing, at pag-attend sa work or business at the same time. Just because UPOU does not provide learning in the classroom e less na ang standards ng education doon. Try mo kaya mag-UPOU kung di ka abutin ng 4 years for 2-year course or kung matapos ka man, stressed ka naman.
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kulugo2
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ouch naman @foryouonly. mag-eenroll pa naman ako sa UPOU, but the way you say it, parang walang karapatan ang iba na mag-enroll dyan. dapat yung mga galing UP lang din? at kung hindi galing UP, kabilang lang sa “kung sinu-sino na lang” group? e di kayo na magaling.
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foryouonly
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‘Not all the exams are taken home’. Most exams are taken home so I don’t see the point you’re trying to get at. I also know people who are enrolled in UPOU and most of them are not even graduates from UP. You’d be a fool not to think that other people will always have a way to cheat or at least to get answers from someone else. To state that UPOU is in the same level of UP classroom experience is plain stupidity. First of all, the entrance exam has that main difference. Duh, ilan kaming mga naglaban laban para makapasok sa UP compared sa mga gustong pumasok dyan sa UPOU ninyo. Ilan kaming mga valedictorians/salut/honorable mention or even regular students from science high schools na nagsama sama sa isang klase sa UP to discuss/share our thoughts and take the same exams on our ‘own’. At kahit mga matatalinong students na walang laptop/computer, pwedeng makipagsabayan sa amin. Now tell me, sinong pwede nyo ipagmalaki sa UPOU na yan? Mga artista? yuck!
What system-wide hierarchy are you talking about? Did you even understand what I posted? I have high respect towards ALL UP campuses. But please, don’t ever include UPOU in these campuses. Again, they’re just not in the same league/level! If that’s OU’s challenge, then it might take centuries before they can prove everyone wrong. Dream on! It’s not where you studied pala eh..sige I’ll just go to AMA or even TESDA and I’ll just hope that I’d be the CEO of this company like in X decades. Duh gasgas na yan. At the end of the day, the school where you came from still matters! They’ll still talk about that at work AND that’s still one of the qualifications for your promotion! Di ko naman gagawing manager and isang graduate lang ng TESDA over someone from UP di ba? Spell common sense, please.
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sanzo
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Wow. Umaapaw. Di nakapagtataka kung bakit yabang na yabang ang ibang tao sa mga taga-UP.
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emoyouesee
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^oo nga. kumusta naman kaya siya in real life no?kaya siguro wala ng tumatao dito sa peyups ng dahil sa mga tulad niya.
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kulugo2
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nyay bakit ko ba pinatulan? hala foryouonly, ikaw na nga magaling. ikaw na lahat. ikaw na rin maghugas ng pinggan namin sa bahay. =)
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freakninja
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@foryouonly i really wonder what kind of common sense you’re talking about because it’s clearly not evident in your post.
Plus, can I just say, that even if some of your arguments are moot at best, most of the them are riddled with ad hominems and clearly hold very little water. I dunno, maybe I hurt your feelings. Sorry. That was unintended, but that doesn’t discount the fact that I’m taking any form of nonsense.
So let’s go to your arguments:
“Most exams are taken home so I don’t see the point you’re trying to get at. You’d be a fool not to think that other people will always have a way to cheat or at least to get answers from someone else.”
You’d be a greater fool to think that by cheating your way through the take home exams you’re gonna pass the long exams, midterms and finals without studying. You said it yourself, common sense. That’s why it’s called distance learning, because you are expected to learn with minimal prodding. How will you know if someone cheats? You won’t. There will always be people who will try to cheat their way through college, even in UPD, so don’t act as if we’re all high and mighty. At the end of the day, it’s just really an argument between you and your desperation or your integrity.
” To state that UPOU is in the same level of UP classroom experience is plain stupidity. First of all, the entrance exam has that main difference. Duh, ilan kaming mga naglaban laban para makapasok sa UP compared sa mga gustong pumasok dyan sa UPOU ninyo. Ilan kaming mga valedictorians/salut/honorable mention or even regular students from science high schools na nagsama sama sa isang klase sa UP to discuss/share our thoughts and take the same exams on our ‘own’. At kahit mga matatalinong students na walang laptop/computer, pwedeng makipagsabayan sa amin. Now tell me, sinong pwede nyo ipagmalaki sa UPOU na yan? Mga artista? yuck!”
I don’t know where your common sense picked that up, but no one ever claimed that it was on (this is the correct preposition to use in this context, you’re welcome) the same level as a UP classroom experience. Again, it’s effing distance education. But to assume that it’s subpar? Now that’s just plain ignorance.
I took the PSHS NCE, went to Pisay, and then took the UPCAT, went to UP. I would never belittle UPOU though because I am not ignorant and know that there are certain requirements too before someone can go pursue a bachelor’s degree in OU. Guess what? UPOU has the same grade requirements as a number of UPD’s colleges.
It is very important to note that UPOU is a school meant for people who cannot afford the full classroom experience for certain reasons (like work and distance). Celebrities have a right to study too even in spite of their schedules, so what’s so wrong about a celebrity wanting to study at UPOU? For all they care, they can just go buy a degree from somewhere else (because surely they can afford it). But No, they’ll go to UPOU because it’s convenient and they actually end up learning something.
Obviously very few people know about UPOU, but for your benefit, Miguel Zubiri and Jejomar Binay took their post-graduate degrees in Environment and Natural Resources Management there, Former UPM-PGH Director Juan Nanagas took his MPH in UPOU, former PNR governor Joanne Zapanta too. So what’s the fuss about?
“What system-wide hierarchy are you talking about? Did you even understand what I posted? I have high respect towards ALL UP campuses. But please, don’t ever include UPOU in these campuses. Again, they’re just not in the same league/level! If that’s OU’s challenge, then it might take centuries before they can prove everyone wrong. Dream on! It’s not where you studied pala eh..sige I’ll just go to AMA or even TESDA and I’ll just hope that I’d be the CEO of this company like in X decades. Duh gasgas na yan. At the end of the day, the school where you came from still matters! They’ll still talk about that at work AND that’s still one of the qualifications for your promotion! Di ko naman gagawing manager and isang graduate lang ng TESDA over someone from UP di ba? Spell common sense, please.”
I perfectly understood what you posted, sir or what-not. UPOU is part of the UP System whether you like it or not. And I wasn’t directly referring to you when I mentioned the system-wide hierarchy. If you understood what I posted with your impeccable common sense, you would have known that I said that as a general comment. 
And you belittle other schools as if they have nothing to offer. That’s soooo mature (insert sarcasm here). I have a friend who studied in AMA and he is now a junior executive for an IT company in the States, it took him less than 5 years. What does that tell you? It tells you that I am correct in saying that “Sure, your fancy degree from your fancy university can land you a job, but in the real world, it will always be your attitude and your skill that will determine how far you can succeed”
Qualifications for promotion you say? Surely it is considered, but your performance, your interviews, your track record will always be the top priority.
UP Grad ka nga, batugan naman, saksakan ng tigas ng ulo, at feeling magaling pero wala namang naicontribute na maganda. I get trainees from UP all the time; sure I’ll have my expectations but I always stress out that success isn’t dictated by the school you’ve come from – it shuts their egos up and keeps them grounded. Everybody’s happy.
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sanzo
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Pagpasensyahan n’yo na ‘yan. Isa ‘yan sa mga nakikisukob lang sa ilalim ng UP glory. Eh baka nga di pa taga-UP ‘yan eh, nagpapanggap lang. Not worth the long posts, in my own honest f*cking opinion.
And yes, we all got troll’d. lulz
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freakninja
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Ayoko kasi idedma baka lumaganap. haha. Pumapatol talaga ako pag may kelangan i-correct na ugali. Concerned lang naman ako. )
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foryouonly
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sanzo: Yan lang ba kaya mong sabihin? Gosh, do you even have a brain? Hindi ko kailangan makisubsob dahil I earned every single accomplishment I had in UPD. “Baka nga di pa taga-UP yan” is a common statement coming from pathetic losers who never went to UP. In their dreams!! Not worth the long posts since you don’t have anything sensible to post in the first place.
Kulugo2: Matagal ko ng alam yan. Sige na, balik na sa kulungan ng dog ng maid namin.
Amoyouesee: Ay teh, I’m perfect in real life. Matalino at palaban pa rin naman. Malaki rin ang kinikita at higit sa lahat, masaya sa life. Ikaw teh? Saang kangkungan ka dinala ng pipitsuging unibersidad mo?
Freakninja: Mahaba-haba to, humanda ka teh. Again, spell C-O-M-M-O-N S-E-N-S-E! Tigas naman ng ulo eh…Clearly not evident in my post eh wala ka nga nun in the first place? Duh di mo talaga maggets. Pero dahil patient naman ako, pagbibigyan kita. I’ll explain it further.
Ad hominems? Do you even know the meaning of that simple term which is like a word used daily by UP students/grads? So anong tawag mo sa post mo teh? Di ba yan ad hominems? These are not plain personal opinions. At wala akong inaatakeng specific na tao/grupo ng tao. Teh, alam naman ng milyon milyong Pinoy na maraming bobo nag-aaral sa AMA. Ok sige, kung may mga naging successful, sila yung mga transferree from other schools na malamang ay UP din. Siguro di pumasa sa Math 17 or ES kaya piniling bumaba nang sukdulan sa lebel ng unibersidad. Teh gumising ka! Proven yang mga yan at alam na alam ng lahat na bulok ang UPOU. Jusko naman, hello Sharon Cuneta! Hello fellow kapamilyas and kapusos. Gosh ang saket lang sa bangs!
“You’d be a greater fool to think that by cheating your way through the take home exams you’re gonna pass the long exams, midterms and finals without studying.” May utak ka ba? Kung daddy mo nagPHD or kahit MA man lang sa course na ni-take mo, malamang it’s like a walk in the park na lang ang pagtake mo ng exams. This is just one of the possibilities at siguro naman di ko na kailangan sabihin lahat ng possible scenarios. Pakihasa naman ang napupurol mong utak, please?
“How will you know if someone cheats? You won’t.” Kelan ka pinanganak, kahapon?
“There will always be people who will try to cheat their way through college, even in UPD, so don’t act as if we’re all high and mighty” – at talagang ni-compare ang cheating between OU and live classroom sa UP. My gosh, ever heard of professors/proctors checking each section of the class during the exam? Ever heard of time pressure? Ever heard of one seat apart arrangement? Good luck sayo kung maconnect mo yan sa bulok niyong OU. Sumasakit na abs ko ah, thanks teh.
Sa haba ng post ko, talagang napansin mo ang preposition ko. Eh yung ‘most of the them’ mo? Kelan pa ginamitan ng article ‘the’ ang pronoun? Namuna ka ng wala sa topic, edi I did the same. You’re very much welcome.
Yung response ko na “To state that UPOU is in the same level of UP classroom experience is plain stupidity.” was for this: “@kleist: easier than the normal UP unit? think again because here I am, trying all means para makuha ung mga GE sa UP Manila dahil mahirap magself-study, lalo na pag kailangan ng matindihang analysis ng assignments mo. nakakamatay pag hindi mo maintindihan pero hindi ka pwedeng magtaas nalang ng kamay at magtanong sa professor mo. kailangan magresearch ka mag-isa dahil pag nagtanong ka sa prof mo, 1 hour before ng deadline pa sya sasagot.”
Wag kang assuming masyado. Di ka naman nakaquoute kaya walang naestablish na para sayo lahat ng post ko.
At talagang kailangan banggitin na nagPisay ka? I.don’t.fcking.care. Mas marami kaming galing ng iba’t ibang science high schools na di hamak na mas magagaling sa inyo. Puno lang kayo ng kaangasan sa first few years nyo sa UP pero by the time na pare-pareho na tayo ng alam, zero na ang acceleration nyo sa acads. Teh di ka uubra sa kaangasan ko sensya. Malamang you won’t belittle UPOU kasi nga oh: “Oh hey, I’m planning to take BES too.” Alam kong tanga ka pero wag mo na ipamukha dito na sukdulan ang katangahan mo, please?
Miguel Zubiri? Jejomar Binay? Gosh you’re making me laugh. Ganda na talaga abs ko.. Oh sino pa? Please wag mga Starstruck or Star Magic…
Teh papalusot ka pa? Eto oh:
“I studied in UPV and UPD, and it’s sad that THIS is what is being taught in UP – that there is a system-wide hierarchy – where the provincial campuses and OU happen to be at the bottom of that list.” All caps pa nga yung THIS eh. Ok na maging tanga pero kung nagpapalusot pa? Please naman you have no way out. I never thought na may ganitong produkto ang Pisay… what a shame.
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jeijei
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Pwede bang ibalik yung discussion sa UPOU mula sa ad hominem at self promotion?
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freakninja
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Right back at you, foryouonly.
I never thought na may gantong produkto ang UPD. What a shame. tsk tsk. Oh wait, marami palang ganun! lol. It’s a good thing I know how to weed trolls like you out of my system.
jeijei, that’s a very good point.
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neverthechoice
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excited na ako mag-enroll yipeeee! at long last, sa isang UP unit na rin ako mag-aaral. i feel like i’m home.
anyone here taking up AA?
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